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		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-709</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bethanne,
You are such a star!! Thanks!!! 
I'm excited to see this spot grow in the coming months.
Cheers, Felicia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bethanne,<br />
You are such a star!! Thanks!!!<br />
I&#8217;m excited to see this spot grow in the coming months.<br />
Cheers, Felicia</p>
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		<title>By: Bethanne</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-705</link>
		<author>Bethanne</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alicia, so glad you joined us... and I know we're all looking forward to Jennifer's discussion in September and more books, and more books... whether you've read the book before or are reading it for the umpteenth time, WR Classics will have something to offer (I hope!). You wrote "All in all, I found it a challenging, worthwhile read, and a wonderful pick. I won't be so hesistant to dive into Woolf again," I was thrilled. That's why I want to be here.

I'm going to come back a bit later this a.m. with some more comments, as well as a few books about Woolf and her Bloomsbury circle to recommend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alicia, so glad you joined us&#8230; and I know we&#8217;re all looking forward to Jennifer&#8217;s discussion in September and more books, and more books&#8230; whether you&#8217;ve read the book before or are reading it for the umpteenth time, WR Classics will have something to offer (I hope!). You wrote &#8220;All in all, I found it a challenging, worthwhile read, and a wonderful pick. I won&#8217;t be so hesistant to dive into Woolf again,&#8221; I was thrilled. That&#8217;s why I want to be here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to come back a bit later this a.m. with some more comments, as well as a few books about Woolf and her Bloomsbury circle to recommend.</p>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-692</link>
		<author>alicia</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the first book I've read by Virgina Woolf, and I'm glad that the WR Classics is here. It gives me an opportunity to read books I've always wanted to in a book club that provides me discipline but flexibility. I'm no English prof, either, and have always felt a bit intimidated discussing classics.

That being said, this was not an easy book for me to read. It took me a good hundred pages to hook into, and I continually felt lost in the first half with the large cast of characters, often having to flip back to see who was who (all those children!). 

But I was largely impressed by Woolf, her insights, her long, long sentences, the use of metaphor and simile in such a persistent way. Stylistically, she's a genius. What I loved most was her characters, how full they were, I seemed to feel adoration and disdain, compassion and disappointment for each one. 

On a personal level, it was everything I loved about reading: I could get into their heads. We are all neurotic, I thought triumphantly, and felt normal. I agree that the story, and the process of reading it, is a journey. All in all, I found it a challenging, worthwhile read, and a wonderful pick. I won't be so hesistant to dive into Woolf again. 

Sure, I've still got questions about what happened in parts of the book, but I'm not too worried about it (as someone mentioned the blundered quote by Mr. Ramsey). I figure this will be a book I'll consider long after I've finished it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the first book I&#8217;ve read by Virgina Woolf, and I&#8217;m glad that the WR Classics is here. It gives me an opportunity to read books I&#8217;ve always wanted to in a book club that provides me discipline but flexibility. I&#8217;m no English prof, either, and have always felt a bit intimidated discussing classics.</p>
<p>That being said, this was not an easy book for me to read. It took me a good hundred pages to hook into, and I continually felt lost in the first half with the large cast of characters, often having to flip back to see who was who (all those children!). </p>
<p>But I was largely impressed by Woolf, her insights, her long, long sentences, the use of metaphor and simile in such a persistent way. Stylistically, she&#8217;s a genius. What I loved most was her characters, how full they were, I seemed to feel adoration and disdain, compassion and disappointment for each one. </p>
<p>On a personal level, it was everything I loved about reading: I could get into their heads. We are all neurotic, I thought triumphantly, and felt normal. I agree that the story, and the process of reading it, is a journey. All in all, I found it a challenging, worthwhile read, and a wonderful pick. I won&#8217;t be so hesistant to dive into Woolf again. </p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;ve still got questions about what happened in parts of the book, but I&#8217;m not too worried about it (as someone mentioned the blundered quote by Mr. Ramsey). I figure this will be a book I&#8217;ll consider long after I&#8217;ve finished it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kenney</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-691</link>
		<author>Lisa Kenney</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe that every single word and choice was entirely intentional. Really, she went from all of that internal dialogue to almost no characters but the house and the lighthouse...maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe that every single word and choice was entirely intentional. Really, she went from all of that internal dialogue to almost no characters but the house and the lighthouse&#8230;maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Bethanne</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-687</link>
		<author>Bethanne</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, I kept wondering if that style change in Part II was entirely deliberate -- or if Woolf found that without Mrs. Ramsay in the middle of things, that she couldn't maintain the dreamy quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, I kept wondering if that style change in Part II was entirely deliberate &#8212; or if Woolf found that without Mrs. Ramsay in the middle of things, that she couldn&#8217;t maintain the dreamy quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kenney</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-677</link>
		<author>Lisa Kenney</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Time Passes and I thought it was interesting that in Part II, the style changes significantly. I found her prose beautiful in parts and the way that she chose to show and accelerate the years passing was fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Time Passes and I thought it was interesting that in Part II, the style changes significantly. I found her prose beautiful in parts and the way that she chose to show and accelerate the years passing was fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethanne</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-676</link>
		<author>Bethanne</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. F., thanks for the comment/thoughts... it's an excellent point and one I particularly care about, since it points back to the essential feminism at the core of Woolf's work: that's "feminism" with a lower-case "f." If men (Paglia again!) tend towards linearity, women tends toward circularity... neither is altogether bad or good, but Woolf's writing was one of the first and forever one of our strongest embodiments of a more female version of history.

BTW, all: the model for WR Classics is that I, your host, pop in and out all day... if you leave a comment and don't get a response from me, I hope someone else will leave one -- but rest assured, I'll return!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. F., thanks for the comment/thoughts&#8230; it&#8217;s an excellent point and one I particularly care about, since it points back to the essential feminism at the core of Woolf&#8217;s work: that&#8217;s &#8220;feminism&#8221; with a lower-case &#8220;f.&#8221; If men (Paglia again!) tend towards linearity, women tends toward circularity&#8230; neither is altogether bad or good, but Woolf&#8217;s writing was one of the first and forever one of our strongest embodiments of a more female version of history.</p>
<p>BTW, all: the model for WR Classics is that I, your host, pop in and out all day&#8230; if you leave a comment and don&#8217;t get a response from me, I hope someone else will leave one &#8212; but rest assured, I&#8217;ll return!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I loved about TTL is Woolf's manipulation of time, and how she influenced a young Gabriel Garcia Marquez. I keep remembering that clock and it's hourly, ominous chime, and how it was supposed to keep time (ground you to the society) through a book that constantly rebuffed our conception of time. 

Not sure if that makes any sense, but when I read Moments of Being (a collection of her memoirs), she spoke of the fact that there is no difference (to her) between events in the past and present. They are all relevant. They inform one another. They rely on one another. One couldn't possibly understand who they are without thinking back but at the same time a remembrance of things past cannot disable the future. 

OK. I haven't had my morning joe yet, however, overall, I was struck by Woolf's fascination with time and how all her characters are affected by it (via events, memory, etc).

Cheers, f.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I loved about TTL is Woolf&#8217;s manipulation of time, and how she influenced a young Gabriel Garcia Marquez. I keep remembering that clock and it&#8217;s hourly, ominous chime, and how it was supposed to keep time (ground you to the society) through a book that constantly rebuffed our conception of time. </p>
<p>Not sure if that makes any sense, but when I read Moments of Being (a collection of her memoirs), she spoke of the fact that there is no difference (to her) between events in the past and present. They are all relevant. They inform one another. They rely on one another. One couldn&#8217;t possibly understand who they are without thinking back but at the same time a remembrance of things past cannot disable the future. </p>
<p>OK. I haven&#8217;t had my morning joe yet, however, overall, I was struck by Woolf&#8217;s fascination with time and how all her characters are affected by it (via events, memory, etc).</p>
<p>Cheers, f.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethanne</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-669</link>
		<author>Bethanne</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, even if it's just you and me talking about 'To the Lighthouse' today it will be worth it. We can share of streams of consciousness, LOL.

With Virginia Woolf, everything is intentional; that's not simply me being flip, that's true. She never set down a word that wasn't meant to signify something else -- it was her style, but also her metier, if that makes sense. 

Mrs. Ramsays' shawl: to me, it's always been the garb of an true earth mother, a sign of deliberate, Martha-Stewart-esque care and beauty -- but also a foreshadowing of her eventual shroud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, even if it&#8217;s just you and me talking about &#8216;To the Lighthouse&#8217; today it will be worth it. We can share of streams of consciousness, LOL.</p>
<p>With Virginia Woolf, everything is intentional; that&#8217;s not simply me being flip, that&#8217;s true. She never set down a word that wasn&#8217;t meant to signify something else &#8212; it was her style, but also her metier, if that makes sense. </p>
<p>Mrs. Ramsays&#8217; shawl: to me, it&#8217;s always been the garb of an true earth mother, a sign of deliberate, Martha-Stewart-esque care and beauty &#8212; but also a foreshadowing of her eventual shroud.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Kenney</title>
		<link>http://writersrevealed.com/2007/08/20/wr-classics-82107-its-the-voyage-out-not-the-lighthouse-that-matters/#comment-649</link>
		<author>Lisa Kenney</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did read it, highlighter in hand and I'm afraid the ideas that came up will be stream of consciousness from me too -- I was interested in all the observations about Mr. Ramsay, especially from Mr. Carmichael and Lily, especially since they seem to both evolve toward their own self actualization and successes in the end, despite how they appear early on. Charles Tansley thinks he's a genius, Mr. Bankes thinks he peaked at 25, and Mrs. Ramsey feels protective of him, but can never tell him she loves him. I was also interested in the symbolism, if it was intentional (and I have to believe it was) of Mrs. Ramsay's green shawl and of James's cut outs from the catalogue. I also wondered about the reference to Mr. Carmichael and opium...oh, and early on, Mr. Ramsey's repetition of the phrase "some one has blundered". I have lots of questions and thoughts on this book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did read it, highlighter in hand and I&#8217;m afraid the ideas that came up will be stream of consciousness from me too &#8212; I was interested in all the observations about Mr. Ramsay, especially from Mr. Carmichael and Lily, especially since they seem to both evolve toward their own self actualization and successes in the end, despite how they appear early on. Charles Tansley thinks he&#8217;s a genius, Mr. Bankes thinks he peaked at 25, and Mrs. Ramsey feels protective of him, but can never tell him she loves him. I was also interested in the symbolism, if it was intentional (and I have to believe it was) of Mrs. Ramsay&#8217;s green shawl and of James&#8217;s cut outs from the catalogue. I also wondered about the reference to Mr. Carmichael and opium&#8230;oh, and early on, Mr. Ramsey&#8217;s repetition of the phrase &#8220;some one has blundered&#8221;. I have lots of questions and thoughts on this book&#8230;</p>
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